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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 12:51:05 am »
I'm not arguing with your math I just don't understand where your getting the number of 4200 or 6000 days from to me it doesn't make sense. You don't seem to take into consideration just how many blocks you can place per hour which I guarantee would take nowhere near that amount of time for a 1000x1000x1000 cube. And if your dealing with a cube regardless of size you don't have to spend much time in designing it you place one line then keep adding lines of the same dimension.

I'm not arguing that it could be build quickly, just that it wouldn't take years at the games current level.

I'm saying that, taking the post earlier saying it would take 2 day to build the hull and 3-5 days to fill it. Saying that, from my math, either it doesn't take 2 + 4 days to build the cube or the numbers I gave are correct, taking everything I said as a disclaimer to my math into account, or my values are fine. Also it's not really per hour, it's per whatever "day" niwantaw was talking about. Like if you played a few hours a day, or something. So it's not 4200 days of 24-hour work. It just means that if it took 2 + 4 days to make the 100X100X100 cube, it would take 200(2 multiplied by 10x10) + 4000(4 multiplied by 10x10x10) days to make a 1000x1000x1000 cube. If you don't see how I got my numbers then you aren't understanding the math.
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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2011, 01:01:00 am »
Okay that makes more sense to me I was assuming you meant 24 hr days as opposed to 1 "game" day being say 4 hours for arguments sake. That's why I was scratching my head when I saw your post saying it would take 6000 days, Either way its all good.

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2011, 01:05:06 am »
I recalculated it to be 4200 days, btw. If you use 4 hours as one day, that would still be 700 days of 24 hours. Hopefully shipyard-type building things aren't too far in the future.
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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2011, 01:24:30 am »
Hopefully so, then you could get most of the hull done for that cube in a couple days.

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2011, 11:10:49 am »
6000 days?? I think your math is a little off if you think it would almost take 17 years to build it. It would only take about 60 days to compete the outer hull. On top of that you wouldn't have to worry about some of the design features you see on other ships and making sure their even. Your just building a giant cube so once you have a basic frame you just have to fill it in.

If that was the case ships like the Selfless Heart would take over 20 years to build, and I doubt any of us are that dedicated to spend a quarter century making a space ship in a video game

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2011, 12:44:53 pm »
I've stopped the construction for now. Its on hold. I've lost interest due to the fact all my ^%$^$^$%^ work was wiped clean for no reason. I didnt save over it..ect..

I was using v26.1 of the game. Why you may ask? Because despite the new features in v28, its slow. your movement is significantly slowed, you move at half the speed as you do in 26.1, so you end up placing less blocks. Hence, i was building in 26.1 because it was faster to place blocks in a straight line. and placing 100 blocks took about..erm...30 seconds to a minute. Its a long way.

Furthermore, i was doing 1/4 a side per day, so 2500 blocks, 25Wx100L so 4 days per side or 24 per cube. thats 24 days my estimate. plus i'd have to do the frickin plating, which would be heavy.

Creators do note, that while heavy plating absorbs a single blast from a turret, a pulse beam (several turrets back to back) or repeating a single blast quickly, goes right through it easily. its hardly invulnerable.

So yes, its on hold because im frustrated with all my progress being wiped clean, and i had a good week of progress done, and i dont want to redo it and see my time and effort wasted. Im waiting for the tools, or a faster way to do it.

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (On Hold, due to errors)
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2011, 02:06:56 pm »
W26 still suffers from the file kill size. Anything over 300 MB and the game stops rendering it. Your ship probably isn't gone, it's just that the game is no longer rendering it because it grew to big.

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2011, 11:27:44 pm »
It would take me 35~ minutes to place roughly 10000 blocks at 5 blocks a second (Yes it easy quite feasibly considering its just a cube)
35~ minutes, multiplied by 100 (1 for each Layer) = 3500~ minutes, Divide 60 = 58~ Hours, Divide 24 = 2.4 Days, Say you placed blocks for 4 hours a day, that is 58~ hours, divide 4 = 14.5 days.

That is for a 100 x 100 x 100 cube.

Not very long actually.

Got no fucking clue as to the 4200 days, even if you only did 1 hour a day that is still only 58 days, multiply that by 3 to give the time for a 300 x 300 x 300 cube, gives you 174~ days at 5 blocks a second for one hour a day.
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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2011, 11:38:54 pm »
Heck, this cube should be over in a day, even if it's solid. I was hammering out 16-18 blocks a second on SH's long verticals.

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 11:43:38 pm »
It would take me 35~ minutes to place roughly 10000 blocks at 5 blocks a second (Yes it easy quite feasibly considering its just a cube)
35~ minutes, multiplied by 100 (1 for each Layer) = 3500~ minutes, Divide 60 = 58~ Hours, Divide 24 = 2.4 Days, Say you placed blocks for 4 hours a day, that is 58~ hours, divide 4 = 14.5 days.

That is for a 100 x 100 x 100 cube.

Not very long actually.

Got no fucking clue as to the 4200 days, even if you only did 1 hour a day that is still only 58 days, multiply that by 3 to give the time for a 300 x 300 x 300 cube, gives you 174~ days at 5 blocks a second for one hour a day.
The 4200 days is for a 1kx1kx1k cube. Also for your 300x300x300 cube, you multiply the time by 27, since you multiplied 100x100x100 by 3x3x3=27. So assuming you take 14.5 days of 4 hours each to place all the blocks in a 100x100x100 cube, it would take 391.5 days to complete a 300x300x300 cube.

Why doesn't anyone get how cubes and squares workkkkkk?

To go by your layer-way of thinking, you would say that the layer size is increase by 9 (3 on one side and 3 on the other) and the number of layers is multiplied by 3, so 3 layers multiplied by layers 9 times as big would equal 27 times the number of blocks.

Even increasing each axis by 3 times shows how quickly a value can go up if it's cubed.

If you took 14.5 days to lay the original 1000000-block cube, it would take 14500 days to lay the cube of 1k^3, which is 1000000000 blocks.

Heck, this cube should be over in a day, even if it's solid. I was hammering out 16-18 blocks a second on SH's long verticals.

With this rate of placing (average of 17 blocks per second) 244800 blocks would be placed in a 4-hour day. This would make the 100^3 cube take around 4 days, the 300^3 block about 110 days, and the 1k^3 cube  about 4085 days.
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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2011, 12:38:20 am »
All this math makes my head hurt just build the dam cube already  :P

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2011, 07:11:21 am »
All this math makes my head hurt just build the dam cube already  :P

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2011, 12:15:48 pm »
Yeah yeah, like janeway actually would go after a cube to blow it up, not avoid it like a sissy. lol. Im building, Im building already!

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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2011, 12:20:58 pm »
Yeah yeah, like janeway actually would go after a cube to blow it up, not avoid it like a sissy. lol. Im building, Im building already!
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Re: Borg Cube 1:10th scale (In Progress)
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2011, 05:11:27 pm »
and when your done building that cube, build a sphere, then a rhombus  :P