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Title: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Zerebo on September 25, 2011, 03:45:41 pm
The "Community-official" Blockade Runner Wiki is located at http://blockaderunnerwiki.com (http://blockaderunnerwiki.com)

We encourage anyone who wishes to help to register an account and edit away!
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: EliteASH_11 on September 26, 2011, 01:51:08 am
Yeah we do, I believe its mostly me, dayshine and Doofu working on it at the moment. Anyone know who created the wiki because I would like to make some changes that only an admin can do.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 20, 2012, 08:35:51 am
I'd love to help. I have no experience with Wikis though... And I'm pretty new to the game myself ;D
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: SnowDragon on February 20, 2012, 09:13:48 am
I might start adding some things when I get the chance.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 20, 2012, 10:55:49 am
I personally hate Wikia's site/layout with a passion. Though I would not want to advocate or start a wiki-war (e.g. Terraria wikis), I have a MediaWiki style (which powers the Minecraft Wiki & Wikipedia itself) wiki pseudo set up if more people prefer that style. If I am in the minority I will gladly let it die; if not now might be a good time to migrate since there isn't a lot of content (which can easily be exported). To reiterate EliteASH_11, has anyone even gotten in contact with the Wikia-BR Wiki founder for the ability to make organizational changes?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Zerebo on February 20, 2012, 04:31:41 pm
I also don't like Wikia's site/layout and I don't like the fact that some random guy is the only admin:
http://blockaderunner.wikia.com/wiki/User:Tao77
For this kind of game a proper wiki is essential. For many people it's the first place they search if they get stuck or don't understand parts of the game. I don't want to rely on a crappy wiki with random admin.

Minecraft wiki style is perfect, you should make a new official wiki Alaric. Now is the best time for it. Before there is to much content and to many people rely on it. This way the community got full control of the wiki.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: kaptnkrunch on February 20, 2012, 04:41:53 pm
I'd agree that now would be an ideal time to migrate. There's very little on there. If we're going to migrate should defo do it before the next update and any more content gets generated.

If the template you've got is like the minecraft wiki/wikipedia classic/vanilla then I'm all for it. The wikia layout isnkt my fave either. I'll certainly contribute when we've got something other than speculation to contribute.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on February 20, 2012, 06:39:11 pm
I also advocate the switch.

I would suggest also that for the time being we limit ourselves to an overview of the game and a list of planned features, and wait at least until the next release before we start listing component blocks and their characteristics. It saves us one round of cleaning everything up when the new release comes.

It might also be prudent to discuss the rules for our wiki, and whether or not we need any significant alteration from say, the Minecraft wiki rules.

Of particular importance at this stage would be to remind everyone to avoid posting any speculation and stick to what ZANMGT has confirmed they intend to include.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 20, 2012, 08:48:03 pm
blockaderunner.wikkii.com (http://blockaderunner.wikkii.com)
EDIT: switched to a more accessible host at blockaderunnerwiki.com (http://blockaderunnerwiki.com)

Migrated everything from the Wikia version & did some hasty pruning. It is still in dire need of an overhaul; the imported information is more a starting point than anything and can be deleted entirely if someone wants to revamp the organization. I would advise looking at some template designs of Minecraft Wiki's (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Category:Templates) and also those of the AdventureCraft mod (http://adventurecraft.wikkii.com/wiki/Category:Templates) (which is also hosted at Wikkii) to make things look nice.

I will happily dole out admin privileges to frequent contributors so we don't end up with a stagnant wiki due to lack of people with the proper permissions. I agree with Strait Raider about keeping speculated features (other than the planned Core Features perhaps) out of the wiki until they're actually implemented. Discussion for wiki rules (and eventually the rules themselves) should probably take place in the wiki itself on the talk pages.

Eventually we will probably have to move away from that host once things start picking up, but it's fairly simple to export content & import it later. If it becomes good enough we might be able to pitch it as the "Official" wiki to the devs so that they can host it themselves...
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 21, 2012, 08:10:48 am
Account created :) prefer the new page btw.

This is my first time editing a wiki, so where do I start? How exactly does this work?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: kaptnkrunch on February 21, 2012, 08:25:04 am
Account created. Will endeavour to post when we've got something to post about...
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 21, 2012, 08:59:05 am
Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial) is a basic tutorial on editing using the standard wiki format (with a test sandbox page as well). It's not quite as simple as WYSIWYG (which may be the appeal of Wikia) but you don't have to fully learn HTML, either. Even if there's not much to add content-wise there's always site organization & page formatting to clean up if anyone feels so inclined.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on February 21, 2012, 04:25:24 pm
I'm currently working on a potential new organization for the main page of our wiki, using a boxed style similar to wikipedia itself and particularly the minecraft wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki

I think this style is more visually appealing and makes a better use of the space, particularly for widescreen monitors.

What are your thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 21, 2012, 06:34:47 pm
Go for it!

I'll work on porting over some of those templates used in the other wikis so we can have a uniform visual style, as well as ease of use.

EDIT: Found a couple more resources on handling the MediaWiki beast:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User_Guide (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_User_Guide)
Handy markup cheatsheet (http://packetlife.net/media/library/17/MediaWiki.pdf)
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 21, 2012, 10:57:09 pm
LOVE the current look.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on February 22, 2012, 12:02:01 am
Thanks!

We aim to please. :D
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: [ZanMgt]Gabriel on February 22, 2012, 12:01:26 pm
Looking good guys! Thank you! ^^
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Z00111111 on February 22, 2012, 07:18:00 pm
Looking good guys! Thank you! ^^

Anything that lets you guys work on getting the next release out is good in my books ;)
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Elvengod on February 22, 2012, 09:39:20 pm
I like the format, but would it be possible to make the background colors, idk, more spacy?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 23, 2012, 02:08:04 am
I like the format, but would it be possible to make the background colors, idk, more spacy?

Do you mean the page background, or the header & infobox colors? The latter use a color scheme derived from the home page (http://blockaderunnergame.com) while still retaining readability. We wouldn't want to go over the top with flashy or extreme colors, but if someone can work out a theme that's not too obnoxious then I don't see why we couldn't consider using it.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 23, 2012, 06:25:20 am
I think we should add more info about the armors. Maybe run some tests to see at exactly what angle plasma penetrates heavy plate? Or at least find out if there's a difference between light and medium plate besides weight.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 23, 2012, 08:28:58 am
We need more info about everything ;D

But yes, it would be a good idea to scientifically gather some technical data to put in the wiki. Even if there is no spot for a particular set of data it could always be posted in the forum (maybe have a thread dedicated to the experiment itself to make it a community effort) and farmed later.

Remember, this is a wiki: anyone* can edit/contribute.

*I say "anyone" but for the moment there is a basic user account system in place while we get the thing set up and some help/guidelines for public editing. But anyone can freely create an account there, which is all that is currently needed in order to make edits.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 23, 2012, 08:50:12 am
And I think it should be kept that way, if only to prevent people just popping in and spamming crap.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Elvengod on February 23, 2012, 04:39:17 pm
in reply to alric dealing with the wiki colors, i mean like the very back most background should be space, and then the texts boxes are a dark ( probably stary night) color, and the words are white. allows for easy readability, and for some uniqueness :)
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 23, 2012, 06:09:57 pm
Moved experimental results from plasma shots against plating to here (http://forums.blockaderunnergame.com/index.php?topic=663.0).
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on February 24, 2012, 03:18:45 pm
I think we may have a problem with visibility. I am unable to find the website using a Google search.

I have submitted the URL to the Google machine, so hopefully it will be registered soon, but it is something we should keep an eye on.

In other news, I've modified the old wiki indicating that it is out of service and providing a link to the new one so hopefully that should generate a bit of traffic too.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on February 25, 2012, 08:02:07 am
I keep testing and it's slowly moving up in search results; we're up to the second page now. I think if we every so often plug in various search terms, keep flipping through the pages until we find it, and click on it then we can get it to the first page in short order. The redirect on the old one should indeed help a bit as well.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 25, 2012, 03:54:03 pm
Any chance we could get them to link it on the official site?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: [ZanMgt]Gabriel on February 27, 2012, 04:07:27 pm
Added to main site. Labeled as "Community Wiki".
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 27, 2012, 04:09:50 pm
Cool thank you!
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Vininator on February 29, 2012, 09:22:59 pm
Quiet around here lately...

Has anyone considered a "History of BR" timeline? With all the big milestones marked?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: dracorotor on April 04, 2012, 09:27:00 am
I looked on the wiki, but didn't get a satisfactory answer to my curiosity about engine configuration. I think that page needs to be expanded, oh lords of the wiki
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on April 04, 2012, 11:03:31 am
I looked on the wiki, but didn't get a satisfactory answer to my curiosity about engine configuration. I think that page needs to be expanded, oh lords of the wiki

Could you clarify exactly what questions you were looking for answers for?

If possible, post these questions in the discussion page for thrusters on the wiki. http://blockaderunner.wikkii.com/wiki/Talk:Thruster http://blockaderunnerwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Thruster (http://blockaderunnerwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Thruster)

Just login and create the talk page if it doesn't exist. This is a much more reliable way to contact the wiki editors than the forum is.

That being said, with the release of the editor so close we'll probably hold off on making major edits until after it is released so we can see what all needs to be changed.


Alaric edit: mind the move ;)
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on July 30, 2012, 06:15:24 pm
The wiki has moved! New URL is blockaderunnerwiki.com (http://blockaderunnerwiki.com)

We switched to a host which allows more access for easier & more complete backups in addition to full customizability of the wiki (e.g. extensions, page layout, etc.). In addition, if we have to move again in the future (due to bandwidth concerns if it gets popular) the URL will remain the same so it would be a seamless transition.

On the downside, anyone who had already created a user account must recreate it at the new host. These should now be preserved for future migrations, however.

Edit away, gents (and ladies, as applicable)!

Progress, and futureproofing! 8)

EDIT: What do we want to do with the previous wiki (not the Wikia one)? I can have it deleted entirely, lock it down to entomb it, or just leave it be. For the latter two options there is a sitewide announcement in place directing visitors to the new address.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Strait Raider on July 30, 2012, 10:55:09 pm
Lockdown + redirect or Deletion in my opinion.

Leaving it open will just create confusion and chaos particularly with the previous wiki having climbed up the Google rankings, it will take a long while for the new wiki to exceed it in search results.

Entombing the previous wiki though, could use that high search result position to get more people redirected to the new wiki.

Then, once the new wiki has climbed the rankings, the old one could be done away with entirely.

Food for thought.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on August 01, 2012, 04:50:02 pm
We also need a logo & favicon image! Any takers?

One thought is somehow incorporating the sun from the home page's (http://www.blockaderunnergame.com) main logo:
(http://www.blockaderunnergame.com/Portals/1/Skins/ZanMgt/images/br-logo.jpg)

Of course, this would require permission from ZanMgt in addition to someone more talented than I to extract the image sans text.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Ace on September 27, 2012, 10:07:59 pm
Just fixed the heavy plates and plasma weapon page and added the Glass page.  :)
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Commander Jackson on October 28, 2016, 05:11:07 pm
I personally hate Wikia's site/layout with a passion

No that I have any opinion about the Wikia's layout/site but can you explain why you hate it?
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on October 29, 2016, 01:34:14 pm
I thought that quote looked familiar; you just fell victim to a copybot:

I personally hate Wikia's site/layout with a passion. ...

It's kind of a moot point now that we've formally switched over (years ago), but I'll humor you and elaborate.

Navigation is awkward, article space is cramped, and Wikia's ads are obnoxious. It just feels too "social media"-y for my taste.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Commander Jackson on October 29, 2016, 02:47:07 pm
I thought that quote looked familiar; you just fell victim to a copybot:

It's kind of a moot point now that we've formally switched over (years ago), but I'll humor you and elaborate.

Navigation is awkward, article space is cramped, and Wikia's ads are obnoxious. It just feels too "social media"-y for my taste.

Gotcha and welp.  That's what I get for not reading.  Also nice to see that someone else is also alive on the forum.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Czorio on October 30, 2016, 07:30:50 am
Meh, I didn't think it was a bot untill I saw the spam post he made; admittedly in a pretty related topic.

I think quite a few people are still around, but in lurking mode. In the corner of your eye. Hiding in the shade. Waiting for the perfect time to strike.
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on October 30, 2016, 01:36:50 pm
Well despite the originating quote being in this very topic, it was interesting in that it only took a part of it rather than the entire post. It's not hard to imagine taking someone who (a) read every post on the forum, or (b) wrote those very words in the first place to recognize it.

It's gone now!
Title: Re: Blockade Runner Wiki
Post by: Alaric on September 28, 2018, 07:43:43 pm
For those who still care: I've temporarily suspended the wiki due to BR's development hiatus. The site is backed up and the domain is still under control so we can bring it back in the future. It just didn't make sense to continue with hosting upkeep costs during this lull.